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PostPosted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 10:59 pm    Post subject: Welder Series cross member Mustang II Reply with quote

Any body ever narrowed a cross member from W S ? Seems simple enough.


I've been doing some chypering on a cross member for coil over shock deal. It would be a little cleaner on the car.


Actually could use 2 of them. One at 56" width hub to hub... then a 48" inch wide unit hub to hub.

May even try my hand at building a tubular set of control arms. Likely it would be cheaper to buy a quality set by the time I am finished building a set

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PostPosted: Tue, Apr 21 2015, 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I narrowed my cross-member in my car. I took equal amounts out of the end frame pockets. I should have cut the cross member outside the steering rack mounts and lap welded it back together. I kept the same lower mount distance and found out latter that the member was actually too wide.
Live and learn or measure twice and measure two more times just to be sure.

Elpaco (?) on the HAMB gave direction on how to make your own.

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PostPosted: Tue, Apr 21 2015, 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Elpaco (?) on the HAMB gave direction on how to make your own.



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PostPosted: Tue, Apr 21 2015, 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I narrowed a crossmember 4" some time back, and shortened a manual rack the same amount. If you want to build your own control arms, you can get them unwelded from Welder Series too, or buy the parts you want from UB Machine and build your own.
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PostPosted: Tue, Apr 21 2015, 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would this rack work?

http://www.rjracecars.com/Stiletto-Gen-2-Pro-Lite-Black-Prodview.html
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PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glen wrote:
would this rack work?

http://www.rjracecars.com/Stiletto-Gen-2-Pro-Lite-Black-Prodview.html


Might work. A bit out of my budget at 600 dollars

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PostPosted: Thu, Apr 23 2015, 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call Horton's and see if they will make a narrow one for you.
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PostPosted: Thu, Apr 23 2015, 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I narrowed a crossmember 4" some time back, and shortened a manual rack the same amount. If you want to build your own control arms, you can get them unwelded from Welder Series too, or buy the parts you want from UB Machine and build your own.



I have not found complete A arms on the Welder Series website. Or enough parts to build arms from. I may be over looking

The UB Machine web site wil take some time to read thru. Lots of parts there

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PostPosted: Fri, Apr 24 2015, 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maval, does most any length rack and pinions. When I checked they were not too expensive.
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PostPosted: Fri, Apr 24 2015, 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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enjenjo wrote:
I narrowed a crossmember 4" some time back, and shortened a manual rack the same amount. If you want to build your own control arms, you can get them unwelded from Welder Series too, or buy the parts you want from UB Machine and build your own.



I have not found complete A arms on the Welder Series website. Or enough parts to build arms from. I may be over looking

The UB Machine web site wil take some time to read thru. Lots of parts there


There is a downloadable PDF catalog with a lot of parts in the rear that are not on the web site

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PostPosted: Sat, Apr 25 2015, 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crosley wrote:
enjenjo wrote:
I narrowed a crossmember 4" some time back, and shortened a manual rack the same amount. If you want to build your own control arms, you can get them unwelded from Welder Series too, or buy the parts you want from UB Machine and build your own.



I have not found complete A arms on the Welder Series website. Or enough parts to build arms from. I may be over looking

The UB Machine web site wil take some time to read thru. Lots of parts there


There is a downloadable PDF catalog with a lot of parts in the rear that are not on the web site



I down loaded the catalog... Nothing on tube A arms. They mention a few brands of arms. I may call Welder Series, learn what they suggest. I am Not too far from pulling the trigger on a purchase, I want a bit more information on parts n pieces.

The UB machine place has tons of parts to use. My thinking is I will buy a set of tube Arms already built. Likely there are angles of ball joints on the A arms I dont know.

Seems most tube A arms are thread in or press in Ball Joints... These are Mopar ball joints as I recall?

I found a set of tube A arms that are 5/8 inch narrowed... Will that throw off the angles on the spindle movement? Goof up ackerman further?

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PostPosted: Sat, Apr 25 2015, 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found a set of tube A arms that are 5/8 inch narrowed... Will that throw off the angles on the spindle movement? Goof up ackerman further?



Shouldn't be a problem.

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PostPosted: Mon, Apr 27 2015, 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a seller on eBay with upper tubular A arms for Mustang II application at 99.00 dollars shipped.

Seems odd one seller would be near 40% lower price than others on eBay & other web sites.

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PostPosted: Mon, Apr 27 2015, 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most times when just one is considerably cheaper so is quality of the unit.

Have you talked to Elpolacko about it, he makes A arms amongst his many other talents. He may also have a recommendation of a good quality to price ratko unit.

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PostPosted: Mon, Apr 27 2015, 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seems odd one seller would be near 40% lower price than others on eBay & other web sites.




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PostPosted: Mon, Apr 27 2015, 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By all means give Paul or DW at Welders Series a call.

When I was picking out rear suspension components, I called and got enough ideas that I ended up ordering different components from their regular kit package, that worked out better. Paul was easy to deal with, combining his experience and knowledge of their products to give excellent suggestions.

Delivery was as promised. One minor screw up, probably my fault, quickly rectified with no problem at all. Got some of the components welded (arms), beautiful welds.

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PostPosted: Mon, Apr 27 2015, 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

river1 wrote:
Most times when just one is considerably cheaper so is quality of the unit.

later jim


I looked at this eBay sellers list of sales. he was selling the same arms for 299.00 in january. Then dropped to 199.00 in feb... now they are at 99.00 dollars.


interesting

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